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Podcast: Trump Delivered A Killing Blow to the Rules-Based Order. Was it Ever Alive to Begin With?

Chaos and Conviviality

Chaos and Conviviality

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Podcast: Trump Delivered A Killing Blow to the Rules-Based Order. Was it Ever Alive to Begin With?
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On this episode of Chaos and Conviviality, Dip analyzes the US government’s move from a mostly “rules-based,” “rational” “management” posture in international policy to something more forceful, using the Trump admin’s “peace plans” for Palestine, Sudan, Western Sahara, and Ukraine, alongside the strong-arming of Venezuela. Dip concludes that liberalism vs. fascism is not a battle between the forces of “good” and “evil”; it is reactionary, statist infighting. Dip wraps up by offering guidance on how our movements can move forward. 

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See time stamps below:

1:55: Host intros

3:20: Overview

4:00 Palestine

10:00: Sudan 

15:45: Western Sahara

21:45: Ukraine

27:10 : Venezuela 

29:40: Analysis

39:15: The role of spectacle in fascism   

42:20: What does this mean for us?

50:15: Deliberation

52:00: Stigmergy

57:00: Enmeshment

58:45: Why these three things? and reading recommendations 

1:05:10: What else?

1:10:45: Dip takes us home

This conversation is adapted from an essay linked here. 

Show notes (for detailed footnotes, see the essay):

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